Seminar

Wednesday, December 4th, 1974

Edited transcript

SEMINAR at Wisdom's Goldenrod, Hector, NY

with Anthony Damiani (AD)

December 4, 1974

ASTROLOGY; THEORY

with Appendix: AB Class Notes 1974 1204.

TOPIC: Astrology

SUBJECT: Theory

SUBSUBJECTS: Samkhya Terms and Aries-Cancer, Leo-Scorpio, Sagittarius-Pisces

CONTENTS:

Aries-Gemini as ahamkara vrittis

Cancer – taking the activity of the willing as a function (bhava)

Cancer – reflection of ahamkara (I) as 'me'

Reflective knowledge

Chart is manifestation of willing of epistemological subject

Cancer as 'touch'

Buddhi vrittis produce bhavas

Scorpio – separates given feltness of world into subject and object

Distinguishing process independent of object or subject

Leo-Scorpio and substance of being as feltness

Raga as attachment to the substance of one's own being

Dharma and adharma

DIAGRAMS appended to this transcript:

  • FIGURE 1974 1204-1-AB. Ahamkara seeing/willing split into seer/willer and seen/willed.

  • FIGURE 1974 1204-2-AB. Buddhi Vrittis.

RETYPED AND REFORMATTED by IT 2023

NOTES:

  • RETYPED PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT (hence V10). From 1974 1204 ASL Astrology Theory 01p.PDF (formerly 1974 1204 ASL natal 1130 end and 1204 01p.PDF). THERE ARE NO AUDIO CASSETTE TAPES EXTANT.

  • The first part of 1974 1204 ASL Astrology Theory 01p.PDF duplicates the end of 1974 1201 ASL Astrology Theory 03p.PDF (formerly 1974 1130 ASL natal chart principles seminar Tony 4p.PDF).

  • AB class notes have been appended because they contain information and diagrams that the partial transcript does not have and thus help round out the class. Retyped from Alan Notes 4 KCB Plato Astrology 1973-1977.PDF. All capitalization and punctuation corrected, all abbreviations and astrological glyphs spelled out in AB class notes.

  • All spelling and punctuation errors have been corrected in Scan File.



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1974 12/04 SEMINAR at Wisdom's Goldenrod

Astrology; Theory

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Tim: Aries -- the will to become which has no object.

Tony: Willing considered independently of the goal.

Tim: Taurus -- the durability of will itself which is taken as the substance of the mind.

Tony: Taurus is substantially conceiving the willing process.

Tim: Gemini taking the successiveness of change as an ordering process and anticipating an individual approach to experience. Aries, Taurus, and Gemini are ahamkara-vrittis and arise together. Vritti manifests objects. Bhava is reference to objects. Cancer is the empirical subject that refers back to the I. It is the only bhava of Ahamkara.

Tony: Cancer is like the physical organ of eyesight, or physical function of eyesight. Aries, Taurus and Gemini are the content. Abhimana is the result of reflecting on the contents of experience. Cancer as a result of functioning conceives itself separate from the content, which is false. Abhimana is conceit of the I. The eye and content come together. Cancer conceives them to be separate. Simultaneous with the willing experience, Cancer is experienced as an I. Cancer is the organ I -- you say what is this I and I say these contents (Aries, Taurus, Gemini). Cancer is the one who thinks he has these objects, but the possession is imaginary. Ahamkara is reflected in Cancer as a me. When we consider reflective knowledge it is knowledge detached from the object or abstracted from the object and conceived of in itself. You consider the image detached from the functioning of the sense organs and as existing in its own right (abhimana). This is all in terms of willing alone. We tend to clothe willing materially. It's conceit to think you can separate the sense from the image and say the image exists per se.

Thinking, willing and feeling have to be going on simultaneously to have a manifested universe.

Ontologically a structured personality, a working hypothesis which is constantly transforme[d]. But there is no self-existent entity (ego).

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