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WISDOM'S GOLDENROD, ALAN BERKOWITZ CLASS NOTES

(TYPED)

MARCH 12, 1984

ASTROLOGY; HOROSCOPE-KRISHNAMURTI

TOPIC: Astrology

SUBJECT: Horoscope-Krishnamurti

SUBSUBJECT: Krishnamurti natal chart (trans-Saturnians)

BOOKS READ FROM OR REFERENCED:

  • R.K. Shringy, Philosophy of J. Krishnamurti: A Systematic Study

  • Marc Edmund Jones, The Astrology of Concepts

  • Marc Edmund Jones, The Sabian Symbols in Astrology

SABIAN SYMBOLS: Taurus 18, Gemini 11, 15, Scorpio 18, Sagittarius 11

CHART appended to these notes:

  • FIGURE 1984 0312-1. J. Krishnamurti Natal Chart.

TYPED AND REFORMATTED by IT 2022

NOTES:

  • RETYPED HANDWRITTEN NOTES (hence V08). From Classnotes AB 1984 0312 to 1984 0518.PDF.

  • All spelling, capitalization, and punctuation corrected, all abbreviations, astrological glyphs, and numbers spelled out.



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1984 03/12 at Wisdom's Goldenrod

Astrology; Horoscope-Krishnamurti

[Classnotes AB 1984 0312 Begin]

3/12/84 Krishnamurti

[Note: Sabian degrees and interpretations are from Marc Edmund Jones, The Astrology of Concepts and The Sabian Symbols in Astrology.]

Readings from Philosophy of Krishnamurti [Note: R.K. Shringy, Philosophy of J. Krishnamurti: A Systematic Study.]

Trans-Saturnians: (Neptune conjunct Pluto) tri-septile Uranus.

Uranus -- concentration

Neptune

Pluto -- voidness

Pluto

A new real-estate subdivision is revealed -- wide streets, lights, a few houses. [Gemini 11, "A new real-estate subdivision is revealed with wide paved streets, ornamental lights and a few newly-built houses."]

Pluto as nirodha = stopping the identification with the diversifying, analytic mind -- dissolving it.

Pluto = the form of the willing consciousness available to the individual, a way of emptying the ego according to the will.

An insistence that you participate in reality by analyzing the perception overlaid on experience, and removing it to perceive what is = An exercising of the will in this form of analyzing experience.

The direct perception is the analysis -- everything else is a parrot-conditioned reaction.

The dissolving of the conditioning follow(s) on the direct perception.

Result of no longer believing in mind's functioning (degree) → opposite degree, perception of the real -- lamp of physical enlightenment. [Sagittarius 11, "An ugly old human figure is the carved representation of a god; near the left side is an ever-burning lamp."]

Neptune

Two Dutch children studying together. [Gemini 15, "Two Dutch children in their immaculate native costumes are studying their lessons together."]

Reduction of experience to its common elements and skills -- reduction -- demand to reduce to the essence to inculcate a feeling unification of the ego and its object.

Intimate converse with the spiritual realities beneath manifestation.

Neptune = the individual's relation to or identity with the World-Idea.

He was obliged to build up his reason through his own experience -- self-contained -- he didn't bring in other philosophical ideas or systems.

[Neptune] conjunct Pluto

The reductionism tended towards a spiritual freedom rather than a materialism (Freud). [Note: Freud has Moon at 15 Gemini.]

The Pluto is able to analyze the content of experience into an ego and its world → the reality behind the ego (Neptune degree).

Neptune: The only distinguishing character between the two Dutch children is numerical. The self can look in either of two directions -- identify with the soul or ego. I-consciousness that has two expressions.

This is what Pluto is constantly analyzing and distinguishing.

Neptune can go over a planet and it can take years to understand it.

Uranus

Winding quiet road through a carpeted forest. [Scorpio 18, "A winding quiet road, carpeted by the falling leaves, leads through an old fashioned woods rich in autumn coloring."]

Nature is working to bring about the most exquisite reproduction of ideal production -- behind the manifestation of one thing is the totality of Nature = The way an uncumbered person would see the world -- to see the perfection in everything.

The degree applies to both poles of experience -- the subject (knowing) is also brought to and seen as perfection.

"This man was liberated. He was constantly in communion with his beloved -- which was truth and reality."

Opposite degree -- woman holding a linen bag outside a window. [Taurus 18, "A woman is holding a linen bag out of her window to give it fresh air and sunshine."]

He showed others what their inner bags were.

Traditionalists -- they're so serious about their spirituality it's nauseating.

[Classnotes AB 1984 0312 End]

1984 03/12 V08: NOTES: Astrology; Horoscope-Krishnamurti. Copyright 2022 Wisdom's Goldenrod p. ii