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Monday, March 12th, 1984
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WISDOM'S GOLDENROD, ALAN BERKOWITZ CLASS NOTES
(TYPED)
MARCH 12, 1984
ASTROLOGY; HOROSCOPE-KRISHNAMURTI
TOPIC: Astrology
SUBJECT: Horoscope-Krishnamurti
SUBSUBJECT: Krishnamurti natal chart (trans-Saturnians)
BOOKS READ FROM OR REFERENCED:
R.K. Shringy, Philosophy of J. Krishnamurti: A Systematic Study
Marc Edmund Jones, The Astrology of Concepts
Marc Edmund Jones, The Sabian Symbols in Astrology
SABIAN SYMBOLS: Taurus 18, Gemini 11, 15, Scorpio 18, Sagittarius 11
CHART appended to these notes:
- FIGURE 1984 0312-1. J. Krishnamurti Natal Chart.
TYPED AND REFORMATTED by IT 2022
NOTES:
RETYPED HANDWRITTEN NOTES (hence V08). From Classnotes AB 1984 0312 to 1984 0518.PDF.
All spelling, capitalization, and punctuation corrected, all abbreviations, astrological glyphs, and numbers spelled out.
1984 03/12 at Wisdom's Goldenrod
Astrology; Horoscope-Krishnamurti
[Classnotes AB 1984 0312 Begin]
3/12/84 Krishnamurti
[Note: Sabian degrees and interpretations are from Marc Edmund Jones, The Astrology of Concepts and The Sabian Symbols in Astrology.]
Readings from Philosophy of Krishnamurti [Note: R.K. Shringy, Philosophy of J. Krishnamurti: A Systematic Study.]
Trans-Saturnians: (Neptune conjunct Pluto) tri-septile Uranus.
Uranus -- concentration
Neptune
Pluto -- voidness
Pluto
A new real-estate subdivision is revealed -- wide streets, lights, a few houses. [Gemini 11, "A new real-estate subdivision is revealed with wide paved streets, ornamental lights and a few newly-built houses."]
Pluto as nirodha = stopping the identification with the diversifying, analytic mind -- dissolving it.
Pluto = the form of the willing consciousness available to the individual, a way of emptying the ego according to the will.
An insistence that you participate in reality by analyzing the perception overlaid on experience, and removing it to perceive what is = An exercising of the will in this form of analyzing experience.
The direct perception is the analysis -- everything else is a parrot-conditioned reaction.
The dissolving of the conditioning follow(s) on the direct perception.
Result of no longer believing in mind's functioning (degree) → opposite degree, perception of the real -- lamp of physical enlightenment. [Sagittarius 11, "An ugly old human figure is the carved representation of a god; near the left side is an ever-burning lamp."]
Neptune
Two Dutch children studying together. [Gemini 15, "Two Dutch children in their immaculate native costumes are studying their lessons together."]
Reduction of experience to its common elements and skills -- reduction -- demand to reduce to the essence to inculcate a feeling unification of the ego and its object.
Intimate converse with the spiritual realities beneath manifestation.
Neptune = the individual's relation to or identity with the World-Idea.
He was obliged to build up his reason through his own experience -- self-contained -- he didn't bring in other philosophical ideas or systems.
[Neptune] conjunct Pluto
The reductionism tended towards a spiritual freedom rather than a materialism (Freud). [Note: Freud has Moon at 15 Gemini.]
The Pluto is able to analyze the content of experience into an ego and its world → the reality behind the ego (Neptune degree).
Neptune: The only distinguishing character between the two Dutch children is numerical. The self can look in either of two directions -- identify with the soul or ego. I-consciousness that has two expressions.
This is what Pluto is constantly analyzing and distinguishing.
Neptune can go over a planet and it can take years to understand it.
Uranus
Winding quiet road through a carpeted forest. [Scorpio 18, "A winding quiet road, carpeted by the falling leaves, leads through an old fashioned woods rich in autumn coloring."]
Nature is working to bring about the most exquisite reproduction of ideal production -- behind the manifestation of one thing is the totality of Nature = The way an uncumbered person would see the world -- to see the perfection in everything.
The degree applies to both poles of experience -- the subject (knowing) is also brought to and seen as perfection.
"This man was liberated. He was constantly in communion with his beloved -- which was truth and reality."
Opposite degree -- woman holding a linen bag outside a window. [Taurus 18, "A woman is holding a linen bag out of her window to give it fresh air and sunshine."]
He showed others what their inner bags were.
Traditionalists -- they're so serious about their spirituality it's nauseating.
[Classnotes AB 1984 0312 End]
1984 03/12 V08: NOTES: Astrology; Horoscope-Krishnamurti. Copyright 2022 Wisdom's Goldenrod p. ii